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‘You wouldn’t understand common sense’ – Labour faces more fury over sentencing furore | Politics | News

amedpostBy amedpostMarch 17, 2025 News No Comments4 Mins Read
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Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood was accused of trying to “suck up to her boss” Sir Keir Starmer by refusing to block “two-tier” sentencing proposals. Shadow Justice Secretary Robert Jenrick declared that Ms Mahmood should have sacked the Sentencing Council “who drafted the rules”.

And Mr Jenrick claimed the Justice Secretary “actually” supports “two-tier sentencing rules”. The hugely controversial new guidance said pre-sentence reports, which are designed to “tailor” sentences most appropriate to an offender’s history and background, should be prepared if a criminal is “transgender” or from an ethnic minority.

The new plans could mean white criminals are more likely to be jailed than ethnic minority offenders.

Mr Jenrick said confidence in the Sentencing Council and the Government is “running out”, adding: “Not only do these new rules violate the most foundational principle of equality before the law, but they also create immense pressure on the criminal justice system.”

He continued: “I can’t help escape the conclusion that the Justice Secretary actually supports these two-tier sentencing rules.

“Why? Because she’s supported a group which called the criminal justice system institutionally racist, her representatives walked through the two-tier guidance and approved them, and she refuses to legislate to block the guidance coming into force or to take any sanction against the members of the Sentencing Council that drafted them.”

Mr Jenrick added: “If there’s one thing we know about Labour governments, it’s that they always end in ‘tiers’. This time, it’s a second-tier Justice Secretary pursuing two-tier justice, all to suck up to her boss, two-tier Keir.”

In his reply, Justice Minister Sir Nicholas Dakin said: “Well there’s one thing we do know about Labour governments, they always have to clear up the mess left by Conservative governments, and that’s what the Lord Chancellor is doing at the moment – clearing up the mess left by this previous government that clogged up courts, the overflowing prisons, the overworked Probation Service.
“There’s a process in place now which needs to be allowed to play out, we will not pre-empt that process.”

And former minister Esther McVey urged the Ministry of Justice to abolish the Sentencing Council and give ministers the powers to draw up the guidelines used by judges.

Ms McVey, MP for Tatton, said: “Last week, the Prime Minister announced he was abolishing NHS England to make sure the NHS was brought back under democratic control. So will the minister be lobbying the Prime Minister to abolish the Sentencing Council to make sure that sentencing is brought back under democratic control?”

Sir Nicholas replied: “I thank the former common sense minister for her question.”

Ms McVey could be heard shouting “you wouldn’t understand common sense”, before Sir Nicholas continued: “If she’ll just stop gabbling and listen, I’ll attempt to answer.

“So I think she’s getting a little bit ahead of herself. There is a process in place: constructive meeting with the Sentencing Council, letter to Sentencing Council, Sentencing Council respond.”

Conservative former minister Sir Desmond Swayne also pressed the Government, saying: “So on a point of great importance to the Lord Chancellor, she is reduced to asking the Sentencing Council to change their mind.

“The former minister for common sense is right, there is a lesson here for all parliamentarians about the way we delegate powers to quangos, which then clearly come up with solutions which we find repulsive.”

Sir Nicholas replied: “There was a constructive meeting. I think if he’d have been in the meeting, he would not have seen it as somebody asking.

“It was a constructive meeting, constructive exchange of views, proper process in place, which I am confident will come up with the right answer.”

Conservative former minister Sir Gavin Williamson said: “All of us hope that her meetings with the Sentencing Council will produce results. However, if they don’t, will the minister commit to working cross-party?

“Because I think there is a real commitment on these benches to work with him, to bring forward emergency legislation if that is required.”

Sir Nicholas replied: “I refer him to the point that we don’t want to get ahead of ourselves.

“We need to allow the current process to go forward, and we need to respect the Sentencing Council’s role in that current process, and then we will address things when we need to address them.”

Under the updated guidance, which comes into force from April, a pre-sentence report will usually be necessary before handing out punishment for someone of an ethnic, cultural or faith minority, alongside other groups such as young adults aged 18-25, women and pregnant women.

Ms Mahmood has told the council that access to such a report should not be determined by ethnicity, culture or religion.

She also said she is considering whether the Sentencing Council should make such policy decisions and what role MPs should play.

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